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Hello, Maybe I am just missing it. What happened to the metadata link? Cant seem to find on the main BioC page? Maybe someone is working on the pages? Thanks [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Adam wrote: > Hello, Maybe I am just missing it. What happened to the metadata > link? Cant seem to find on the main BioC page? Maybe someone is > working on the pages? They have been updated. Look at the Data Packages link on the left side. Best, Jim > > Thanks > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ Bioconductor mailing > list Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor -- James W. MacDonald Affymetrix and cDNA Microarray Core University of Michigan Cancer Center 1500 E. Medical Center Drive 7410 CCGC Ann Arbor MI 48109 734-647-5623
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On 8 Jun 2005, oneadem12@yahoo.com wrote: > Hello, Maybe I am just missing it. What happened to the metadata > link? Cant seem to find on the main BioC page? Maybe someone is > working on the pages? See the link: Data Packages In the side menu. Sorry about that. + seth
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Sorry to bring such an old question up again. I hope that somebody can explain what is happening here. (1) I tried to run fitPLM to about 72 affy ATH1 arrays. It worked with affyPLM version 1.2.5 under R2.0.1, then I saved it as "dataPLM.RData" with option "compress=TRUE" Later when I reload "dataPLM.RData" into working space (R2.1.0) and try to run boxplot and Mbox, it told me that " Error in if (object@model.description$R.model$which.parameter.types[3] == : argument is of length zero since object@model.description is NULL." How did this happen? Does "compress=TRUE" destroy some of the internal structure of PLMset object? (2) then I tried to run fitPLM again ( on the affyBatch object I saved before) using package affyPLM version 1.3.3 under R2.1.0 But this time it wouldn't finish (after Background correcting PM, Normalizing PM) but generated an error of R and closed R after that. I thought that may because my laptop has only 1.5Gb memory. Does this mean that there is some substantial change of affyPLM package between version 1.3.3 and version 1.2.5? I then tried to run this using a Linux machine with 4Gb accessible memory size (there is no limitation in memory for each user and I reboot the system as a super user). But I still got the error message about memory, saying > Pset.Goda=fitPLM(data.Goda.I) Background correcting PM Normalizing PM Fitting models Error: cannot allocate vector of size 52 Kb Does this mean 4Gb is still not enough? My last question is what I need to update my computer in order to analyze 72 arrays together (simpleaffy, affyPLM,Limma...) Thank you very much, any suggestion will be highly appreciated! Fangxin -------------------- Fangxin Hong Ph.D. Plant Biology Laboratory The Salk Institute 10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd. La Jolla, CA 92037 E-mail: fhong@salk.edu (Phone): 858-453-4100 ext 1105
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There were significant changes in the structure of the PLMset object between 1.2.x and 1.3.x which is why you are having problems with the boxplot(), Mbox() commands on your old PLMset using the new code. To reduce memory usage with fitPLM I suggest that you do something like the following Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none")) which should significantly reduce memory usage (and this should really be the default setting, an oversight on my part which will be fixed shortly). Also, if you can live without the weights (or alternatively the residuals) you could do Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none",weights=FALSE)) or Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none",residuals=FALSE)) which would also reduce the memory overhead. Ben On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:22 -0700, fhong@salk.edu wrote: > Sorry to bring such an old question up again. I hope that somebody can > explain what is happening here. > > (1) > I tried to run fitPLM to about 72 affy ATH1 arrays. It worked with affyPLM > version 1.2.5 under R2.0.1, then I saved it as "dataPLM.RData" with option > "compress=TRUE" > Later when I reload "dataPLM.RData" into working space (R2.1.0) and try to > run boxplot and Mbox, it told me that > > " Error in if (object@model.description$R.model$which.parameter.types[3] == > : > argument is of length zero > since object@model.description is NULL." > > How did this happen? Does "compress=TRUE" destroy some of the internal > structure of PLMset object? > > (2) > then I tried to run fitPLM again ( on the affyBatch object I saved before) > using package affyPLM version 1.3.3 under R2.1.0 But this time it wouldn't > finish (after Background correcting PM, Normalizing PM) > but generated an error of R and closed R after that. I thought that may > because my laptop has only 1.5Gb memory. > Does this mean that there is some substantial change of affyPLM package > between version 1.3.3 and version 1.2.5? > > > I then tried to run this using a Linux machine with 4Gb accessible memory > size (there is no limitation in memory for each user and I reboot the > system as a super user). But I still got the error message about memory, > saying > > > Pset.Goda=fitPLM(data.Goda.I) > Background correcting PM > Normalizing PM > Fitting models > Error: cannot allocate vector of size 52 Kb > > Does this mean 4Gb is still not enough? > > My last question is what I need to update my computer in order to analyze > 72 arrays together (simpleaffy, affyPLM,Limma...) > > > Thank you very much, any suggestion will be highly appreciated! > Fangxin > > > > > -------------------- > Fangxin Hong Ph.D. > Plant Biology Laboratory > The Salk Institute > 10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd. > La Jolla, CA 92037 > E-mail: fhong@salk.edu > (Phone): 858-453-4100 ext 1105 > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor -- Ben Bolstad <bolstad@stat.berkeley.edu> http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~bolstad
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Thanks, Ben. That helps a lot! But I still have some questions? Would you please also help me on this. > There were significant changes in the structure of the PLMset object > between 1.2.x and 1.3.x which is why you are having problems with the > boxplot(), Mbox() commands on your old PLMset using the new code. But why when I reload in to R 2.0.1 ( the on ei used to generate PLMset object), and tried boxplot ( suppose to produce NUSE plot), it gave me something strange (see attachment) > > To reduce memory usage with fitPLM I suggest that you do something like > the following > > Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none")) > > which should significantly reduce memory usage (and this should really > be the default setting, an oversight on my part which will be fixed > shortly). > > > Also, if you can live without the weights (or alternatively the > residuals) you could do > > Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none",weights=FALSE)) > > > or > > Pset <- fitPLM(my.Data,output.param=list(varcov="none",residuals=FALSE)) > > which would also reduce the memory overhead. Will those simplificaiton change the underlying model that is fitted to the data. e.g., weights=FALSE doesn't this mean it won't use iteratively reweighted least squares (IRLS)? Thanks! Fangxin > On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:22 -0700, fhong at salk.edu wrote: >> Sorry to bring such an old question up again. I hope that somebody can >> explain what is happening here. >> >> (1) >> I tried to run fitPLM to about 72 affy ATH1 arrays. It worked with >> affyPLM >> version 1.2.5 under R2.0.1, then I saved it as "dataPLM.RData" with >> option >> "compress=TRUE" >> Later when I reload "dataPLM.RData" into working space (R2.1.0) and try >> to >> run boxplot and Mbox, it told me that >> >> " Error in if (object at model.description$R.model$which.parameter.types[3] >> == >> : >> argument is of length zero >> since object at model.description is NULL." >> >> How did this happen? Does "compress=TRUE" destroy some of the internal >> structure of PLMset object? >> >> (2) >> then I tried to run fitPLM again ( on the affyBatch object I saved >> before) >> using package affyPLM version 1.3.3 under R2.1.0 But this time it >> wouldn't >> finish (after Background correcting PM, Normalizing PM) >> but generated an error of R and closed R after that. I thought that may >> because my laptop has only 1.5Gb memory. >> Does this mean that there is some substantial change of affyPLM package >> between version 1.3.3 and version 1.2.5? >> >> >> I then tried to run this using a Linux machine with 4Gb accessible >> memory >> size (there is no limitation in memory for each user and I reboot the >> system as a super user). But I still got the error message about memory, >> saying >> >> > Pset.Goda=fitPLM(data.Goda.I) >> Background correcting PM >> Normalizing PM >> Fitting models >> Error: cannot allocate vector of size 52 Kb >> >> Does this mean 4Gb is still not enough? >> >> My last question is what I need to update my computer in order to >> analyze >> 72 arrays together (simpleaffy, affyPLM,Limma...) >> >> >> Thank you very much, any suggestion will be highly appreciated! >> Fangxin >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> Fangxin Hong Ph.D. >> Plant Biology Laboratory >> The Salk Institute >> 10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd. >> La Jolla, CA 92037 >> E-mail: fhong at salk.edu >> (Phone): 858-453-4100 ext 1105 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > -- > Ben Bolstad <bolstad at="" stat.berkeley.edu=""> > http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~bolstad > > > -------------------- Fangxin Hong Ph.D. Plant Biology Laboratory The Salk Institute 10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd. La Jolla, CA 92037 E-mail: fhong at salk.edu (Phone): 858-453-4100 ext 1105
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