mean vs median of pixel values within spot mask
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> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:16:43 -0500 > From: Pita <pwilkinson_m@xbioinformatics.org> > Subject: mean vs median of pixel values within spot mask wasRe: [BioC] > something weird with read.maimages and .gpr files > To: bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > Cc: bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > > It seems that I answered my own question .... > > There was a typo that was entered into the Genepix software so the output > would not parse. Limmas read.maimages looks specifically for the F532 Mean > for the R channel, instead F594 Mean was written > > Since it is the case that the Mean of the pixels in the pot mask are used > in limma as default: are they any arguments for using the mean values over > the median values? Limma uses the mean of the foreground pixels according to the intuitive argument given in Smyth, G. K., Yang, Y.-H., Speed, T. P. (2003). Statistical issues in microarray data analysis. Methods in Molecular Biology 224, 111-136. http://www.statsci.org/pubs/mareview.pdf i.e., because the mean is proportion to the total number of molecules binding. Limma uses the median of the background because (i) here the aim is to measure the ambient level, not the total binding, and (ii) because it is desirable for noise reduction for the background to be slightly lower than foreground, and the median of a right skew distribution is lower than the mean. > Would the assumption here be that the spot morphology > must be impeccable? I have not yet seen any compelling evidence that the median foreground is more reliable or more tolerant of poor spot morphology than the median foreground in this context. If you can cite such evidence, it would a useful contribution to the debate. Gordon > Peter
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This is to correct a typo in my previous posting. > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:16:43 -0500 > From: Pita <pwilkinson_m@xbioinformatics.org> > Subject: mean vs median of pixel values within spot mask wasRe: [BioC] > something weird with read.maimages and .gpr files > To: bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > Would the assumption here be that the spot morphology > must be impeccable? I have not yet seen any compelling evidence that the median foreground is more reliable or more tolerant of poor spot morphology than the _mean_ foreground in this context. If you can cite such evidence, it would a useful contribution to the debate. Gordon > Peter
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Dear group, I have 4 microarray studies. I am interested in comparing the expression (expression values) of my genes across these studies. I want to take expession value of gene A from first study and and take expression values from other studies, and compare them. Is this process statistically allowed. or do i have to do some treatments for all 4 studes, to bring to a some level so that the expression values can be comparable. Is meta-analysis is the way to go? please suggest.. thank you very much srini
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what i did to combine data from 3 platofroms from 10 different labs is described here: http://www.bepress.com/jhubiostat/paper71/ -r On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Srinivas Iyyer wrote: > Dear group, I have 4 microarray studies. I am > interested in comparing the expression (expression > values) of my genes across these studies. > > I want to take expession value of gene A from first > study and and take expression values from other > studies, and compare them. Is this process > statistically allowed. or do i have to do some > treatments for all 4 studes, to bring to a some level > so that the expression values can be comparable. Is > meta-analysis is the way to go? please suggest.. > thank you very much > srini > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor
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