Get coefficients of variation using the Limma package
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@nilsrudqvist-8794
Last seen 9.2 years ago
United States

Dear list,

I use Limma to determine differential expression between classes. My question concerns how to find class specific coefficients of variation (CV) for one or all probes.

Three questions:

1) can i extract CV values "automatically" when using the Limma package to find differential expression?
2) if not, at what stage would I be able to use the standard deviations and mean expression/intensity to calculate CV?
3) wouldnt i want to calculate CV after applying the eBayes method to shrink the probe-wise sample variances?

Best,

Nils Rudqvist
Postdoctoral Research Scientist
Center for Radiological Research
Columbia University

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@gordon-smyth
Last seen 27 minutes ago
WEHI, Melbourne, Australia

It isn't appropriate to compute CV as part of a limma analysis.

CV is only appropriate for strictly positive variables (like raw expression values). limma works with log-expression values for which variances and standard deviations are more appropriate. The standard deviation of log-expression is in fact approximately the same as the CV of unlogged expression (except for a scaling factor because limma uses log2).

Your next question might be, can you get class-specific standard deviations from limma, but limma doesn't automatically compute that. You could get class specific SD by running limma on the classes separately, but why would you want that?

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@nilsrudqvist-8794
Last seen 9.2 years ago
United States

Thank you Gordon for both answering me so quickly and for making Limma so excellent to use. I know that many people out there - including me - rely on and is thankful for your work.

Let us say I have two groups of five animals each: group A (irradiated) and B (non-irradiated controls). To visualize/compare the distribution of samples within each group we discussed calculating CV values (or SD as you propose) for each probe (for group A and B respectively). For this, I must need class specific SD for each probe? My idea now is to plot the variance or SD probe-wise for group A vs group B. 

I do understand that I might attack this using the wrong approach.

Again, thank you for the time.

Best,
Nils


 

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