Agilent two color Quantile normalization
1
0
Entering edit mode
neeraj rana ▴ 60
@neeraj-rana-6047
Last seen 10.2 years ago
Dear Bioconductor List, I am doing two color Agilent microarray analysis by limma. I tried to normalize* M *values by using following command.But both the commands are giving different M values. *(1) MA<- normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw, method="quantile") * *(2) MA <- **normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw$M, method="quantile") * the first command does not give same boxplot of M value for all arrays , but second command is giving same boxplot for all arrays.* * *I want to know whether first command is proper for between the array normalization and is it applied on M values or not? * Thanks * * * ** * -- [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Microarray limma Microarray limma • 1.4k views
ADD COMMENT
0
Entering edit mode
@james-w-macdonald-5106
Last seen 19 hours ago
United States
Hi Neeraj, >From ?normalizeBetweenArrays: object: a numeric ?matrix?, ?EListRaw?, ?RGList? or ?MAList? object containing un-normalized expression data. ?matrix? or ?EListRaw? objects will be assumed to contain single-channel data, usually log-intensities, whereas ?RGList? or ?MAList? objects should contain two-color data. On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:08:38 AM, Neeraj Rana wrote: > Dear Bioconductor List, > > I am doing two color Agilent microarray analysis by limma. > > I tried to normalize* M *values by using following command.But both the > commands are giving different M values. > > *(1) MA<- normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw, method="quantile") So here limma thinks you have a two-color array. > > * > *(2) MA <- **normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw$M, method="quantile") And here limma thinks you have a one-color array. Since you do not have a one-color array, this is not what you should be doing. Best, Jim > > * > the first command does not give same boxplot of M value for all arrays , > but second command is giving same boxplot for all arrays.* > > * > *I want to know whether first command is proper for between the array > normalization and is it applied on M values or not? > > * > Thanks * > * > * > ** > * > > -- > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor -- James W. MacDonald, M.S. Biostatistician University of Washington Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences 4225 Roosevelt Way NE, # 100 Seattle WA 98105-6099
ADD COMMENT
0
Entering edit mode
thanks jim But when i use normalizeBetweenArrays(MA,methode="quamtile),it is supposed to perform quantile normalization on M values and the mean ,median,maximum value and minimum value should be the same of all arrays after normalization. I am copying my script here for reference. > targets <- readTargets("target.txt") > targets FileName Cy3 Cy5 1 207_1_1_4HR.txt 4HCY3 4HCY5 2 207_1_2_4HR.txt 4HCY3 4HCY5 3 207_1_3_1HR.txt 1HCY3 1HCY5 4 207_1_4_1HR.txt 1HCY3 1HCY5 5 8052_1_3_12HR.txt 12HCY3 12HCY5 6 8052_1_4_12HR.txt 12HCY3 12HCY5 > RG <- read.maimages(targets, source="agilent") Read 207_1_1_4HR.txt Read 207_1_2_4HR.txt Read 207_1_3_1HR.txt Read 207_1_4_1HR.txt Read 8052_1_3_12HR.txt Read 8052_1_4_12HR.txt > MA <- normalizeWithinArrays(RG,method="loess",bc.method="normexp") Array 1 corrected Array 2 corrected Array 3 corrected Array 4 corrected Array 5 corrected Array 6 corrected Array 1 corrected Array 2 corrected Array 3 corrected Array 4 corrected Array 5 corrected Array 6 corrected > *summary(MA$M)* 207_1_1_4HR 207_1_2_4HR 207_1_3_1HR 207_1_4_1HR 8052_1_3_12HR 8052_1_4_12HR Min. :-8.853926 Min. :-9.948604 Min. :-6.767666 Min. :-6.642965 Min. :-5.344051 Min. :-6.576922 1st Qu.:-0.395661 1st Qu.:-0.024118 1st Qu.:-0.364050 1st Qu.:-0.339771 1st Qu.:-0.308643 1st Qu.:-0.352430 Median :-0.002921 Median :-0.005917 Median :-0.007129 Median : 0.003566 Median : 0.007702 Median : 0.007684 Mean : 0.013726 Mean : 0.002334 Mean : 0.043019 Mean : 0.002412 Mean :-0.001696 Mean :-0.012679 3rd Qu.: 0.412789 3rd Qu.: 0.013281 3rd Qu.: 0.412566 3rd Qu.: 0.342954 3rd Qu.: 0.311236 3rd Qu.: 0.349261 Max. : 4.826212 Max. : 3.977841 Max. : 4.061991 Max. : 4.568052 Max. : 4.140642 Max. : 4.218073 > *MA <- normalizeBetweenArrays(MA,method="quantile")* >* summary(MA$M)* 207_1_1_4HR 207_1_2_4HR 207_1_3_1HR 207_1_4_1HR 8052_1_3_12HR 8052_1_4_12HR Min. :-6.921310 Min. :-13.368132 Min. :-5.118688 Min. :-6.108837 Min. :-4.488686 Min. :-5.388395 1st Qu.:-0.344347 1st Qu.: -0.238684 1st Qu.:-0.328855 1st Qu.:-0.316487 1st Qu.:-0.281210 1st Qu.:-0.344085 Median :-0.029286 Median : 0.009940 Median :-0.047600 Median : 0.000221 Median :-0.000253 Median :-0.002598 Mean :-0.000028 Mean : 0.000014 Mean :-0.000024 Mean :-0.000030 Mean : 0.000019 Mean : 0.000045 3rd Qu.: 0.312078 3rd Qu.: 0.244628 3rd Qu.: 0.287170 3rd Qu.: 0.315771 3rd Qu.: 0.273066 3rd Qu.: 0.341673 Max. : 5.689074 Max. : 5.190544 Max. : 5.034104 Max. : 5.185184 Max. : 4.800180 Max. : 5.212559 thanks On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM, James W. MacDonald <jmacdon@uw.edu> wrote: > Hi Neeraj, > > From ?normalizeBetweenArrays: > > object: a numeric ‘matrix’, ‘EListRaw’, ‘RGList’ or ‘MAList’ object > containing un-normalized expression data. ‘matrix’ or > ‘EListRaw’ objects will be assumed to contain single- channel > data, usually log-intensities, whereas ‘RGList’ or ‘MAList’ > objects should contain two-color data. > > > > On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:08:38 AM, Neeraj Rana wrote: > >> Dear Bioconductor List, >> >> I am doing two color Agilent microarray analysis by limma. >> >> I tried to normalize* M *values by using following command.But both the >> >> commands are giving different M values. >> >> *(1) MA<- normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw, method="quantile") >> > > So here limma thinks you have a two-color array. > > >> * >> *(2) MA <- **normalizeBetweenArrays (MAw$M, method="quantile") >> > > And here limma thinks you have a one-color array. Since you do not have a > one-color array, this is not what you should be doing. > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > >> * >> the first command does not give same boxplot of M value for all arrays , >> but second command is giving same boxplot for all arrays.* >> >> * >> *I want to know whether first command is proper for between the array >> >> normalization and is it applied on M values or not? >> >> * >> Thanks * >> * >> * >> ** >> * >> >> -- >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor@r-project.org >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/**listinfo/bioconductor<https: stat.e="" thz.ch="" mailman="" listinfo="" bioconductor=""> >> Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.** >> science.biology.informatics.**conductor<http: news.gmane.org="" gmane="" .science.biology.informatics.conductor=""> >> > > -- > James W. MacDonald, M.S. > Biostatistician > University of Washington > Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences > 4225 Roosevelt Way NE, # 100 > Seattle WA 98105-6099 > -- Neeraj KumarMolecular Reproduction Development and Genetics Prof. Kondaiah' Lab Indian Institute of Science Bangalore 560012 Mobile # +91-9986295625 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
ADD REPLY

Login before adding your answer.

Traffic: 588 users visited in the last hour
Help About
FAQ
Access RSS
API
Stats

Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy.

Powered by the version 2.3.6