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Yolande Tra ▴ 120
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Hi list members, May I have your expert opinion on the following. I am looking for protein differentially expressed due to treatment of a certain disease. Protein counts were measured before and after treatment was given. Some patients respond to the treatment (responders) and got better and some patients did not respond to the treatment (nonresponders). The goal is to find which protein is responsible for the positive response, so really looking at group factor. I have used two quantities to describe the change of these proteins: ratio (after/before) and difference (after-before). After computing these quantities, I considered the design as two independent groups (responders versus nonresponders). I used rankproduct procedure to detect the proteins of interest. I obtained different lists of protein differentially expressed which means that using different quantities afftect the results. My question is which quantity (fraction or difference) is more sensitive to a change in this situation? Thank you for any suggestion and any insight in this question, Yolande
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Mark Cowley ▴ 910
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Hi Yolande, Are your protein counts on the log, or linear scale? If log, use difference, if linear, use fraction, HTH Mark On 13/11/2010, at 3:07 AM, Yolande Tra wrote: > Hi list members, > > May I have your expert opinion on the following. > I am looking for protein differentially expressed due to treatment of > a certain disease. Protein counts were measured before and after > treatment was given. Some patients respond to the treatment > (responders) and got better and some patients did not respond to the > treatment (nonresponders). The goal is to find which protein is > responsible for the positive response, so really looking at group > factor. > I have used two quantities to describe the change of these proteins: > ratio (after/before) and difference (after-before). After computing > these quantities, I considered the design as two independent groups > (responders versus nonresponders). > I used rankproduct procedure to detect the proteins of interest. I > obtained different lists of protein differentially expressed which > means that using different quantities afftect the results. > > My question is which quantity (fraction or difference) is more > sensitive to a change in this situation? > > Thank you for any suggestion and any insight in this question, > Yolande > > _______________________________________________ > Bioconductor mailing list > Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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Thanks. Yolande. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Cowley <m.cowley at="" garvan.org.au=""> wrote: > Hi Yolande, > Are your protein counts on the log, or linear scale? If log, use difference, if linear, use fraction, > HTH > Mark > > On 13/11/2010, at 3:07 AM, Yolande Tra wrote: > >> Hi list members, >> >> May I have your expert opinion on the following. >> I am looking for protein differentially expressed due to treatment of >> a certain disease. Protein counts were measured before and after >> treatment was given. Some patients respond to the treatment >> (responders) and got better and some patients did not respond to the >> treatment (nonresponders). The goal is to find which protein is >> responsible for the positive response, so really looking at group >> factor. >> I have used two quantities to describe the change of these proteins: >> ratio (after/before) and difference (after-before). After computing >> these quantities, I considered the design as two independent groups >> (responders versus nonresponders). >> I used rankproduct procedure to detect the proteins of interest. I >> obtained different lists of protein differentially expressed which >> means that using different quantities afftect the results. >> >> My question is which quantity (fraction or difference) is more >> sensitive to a change in this situation? >> >> Thank you for any suggestion and any insight in this question, >> Yolande >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bioconductor mailing list >> Bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > >
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