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Dan Swan ▴ 50
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Hi everyone, I've just been sent some data to analyse using the new(ish) Affymetrix Human Gene ST1.0 microarrays. I notice a CDF package has been built: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioconductor/2007-June/017740.html (with some caveats from Jim) Are there probe sequence data files anywhere for this chip (or in development?). If not any pointers as to how I might assemble one? I'm not used to receiving array data for arrays not listed here! http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/AnnotationData.html thanks, Dan -- Bioinformatics Support Unit || http://bsu.ncl.ac.uk/ Institute for Cell and Molecular Biosciences, Faculty of Medical Sciences, Framlington Place, Newcastle University, Newcastle, NE2 4HH Tel: +44 (0)191 222 7253 (Leech offices: Rooms M.2046/M.2046A - Mon/Wed) Tel: +44 (0)191 246 4833 (Devonshire offices: Rooms G.25/G.26 - Thu/Fri)
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Hi Dan, The probe sequence files for the Gene microarrays are slightly different from the previous generation 3' biased arrays, so this will require some modification of the matchprobes package to accommodate the differences. Making the changes is actually trivial - the makeProbePackage() function will use an arbitrary function (called via the 'importfun' argument) to read in the data from a probe_tab file. If one wanted a probe package that is exactly the same as what we currently supply, you could modify the existing function readProbeDataAffy() to read in the extra columns in the file and then just discard them. The question then remains; is this a good idea or not? I'm not sure it is, and I think we need to think about these new chips a bit to decide what the probe package should contain. For instance, the sequences that they report are the reverse complement of the target sequences. I'm not sure what the sequences for the 3' biased arrays were, but we might want to make what is in the package consistent (or maybe not - new chip == new package?). In addition, there are no MM probes on these chips. Instead there are just a bunch of control probes: The usual AFFX probes A chip control Antigenomic background probes Genomic background probes Exonic normalization control probes Intronic normalization control probes Unmapped probes Since there are no MM probes, these packages clearly won't be useful for gcrma(), so what are the use cases for the package? This is what will inform any further discussion. So what were you planning to do with the package? Best, Jim Dan Swan wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've just been sent some data to analyse using the new(ish) Affymetrix > Human Gene ST1.0 microarrays. > > I notice a CDF package has been built: > > https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioconductor/2007-June/017740.html > > (with some caveats from Jim) > > Are there probe sequence data files anywhere for this chip (or in > development?). If not any pointers as to how I might assemble one? > I'm not used to receiving array data for arrays not listed here! > > http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/AnnotationData.html > > thanks, > > Dan > -- James W. MacDonald, M.S. Biostatistician Affymetrix and cDNA Microarray Core University of Michigan Cancer Center 1500 E. Medical Center Drive 7410 CCGC Ann Arbor MI 48109 734-647-5623
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Jim et al, > The probe sequence files for the Gene microarrays are slightly different > from the previous generation 3' biased arrays, so this will require some > modification of the matchprobes package to accommodate the differences. > > Making the changes is actually trivial - the makeProbePackage() function > will use an arbitrary function (called via the 'importfun' argument) to > read in the data from a probe_tab file. If one wanted a probe package > that is exactly the same as what we currently supply, you could modify > the existing function readProbeDataAffy() to read in the extra columns > in the file and then just discard them. > > The question then remains; is this a good idea or not? I'm not sure it > is, and I think we need to think about these new chips a bit to decide > what the probe package should contain. > > For instance, the sequences that they report are the reverse complement > of the target sequences. I'm not sure what the sequences for the 3' > biased arrays were, but we might want to make what is in the package > consistent (or maybe not - new chip == new package?). > > In addition, there are no MM probes on these chips. Instead there are > just a bunch of control probes: > > The usual AFFX probes > A chip control > Antigenomic background probes > Genomic background probes > Exonic normalization control probes > Intronic normalization control probes > Unmapped probes Ahh.. this is all new information to me.. I probably should have read the Affy site a little closer :/ > Since there are no MM probes, these packages clearly won't be useful for > gcrma(), so what are the use cases for the package? This is what will > inform any further discussion. I think this is where I immediately fell down with my handling of things - I assumed they were just a subset of the exon array or related to the hgfocus arrays, but with a 'traditional' Affy setup - obviously not. I'll go back to the data and decide what I need before further comment.. Thanks! Dan -- Bioinformatics Support Unit || http://bsu.ncl.ac.uk/ Institute for Cell and Molecular Biosciences, Faculty of Medical Sciences, Framlington Place, Newcastle University, Newcastle, NE2 4HH Tel: +44 (0)191 222 7253 (Leech offices: Rooms M.2046/M.2046A - Mon/Wed) Tel: +44 (0)191 246 4833 (Devonshire offices: Rooms G.25/G.26 - Thu/Fri)
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