mergeLevels (aCGH) vs. MergeLevels.new
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Ramon Diaz ★ 1.1k
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Dear All, I am confussed about the differences between mergeLevels (in package aCGH) and MergeLevels.new (package snapCGH), and which one is the recommended merging procedure to use. By the description in the help, mergeLevels (aCGH) is the one used in the Willenbrock & Fridlyand Bioinformatics 2005 paper. The defaults of mergeLevels (Wilcoxon p-value, Ansari p-value, etc) are also those used in the Bioinformatics paper. And the Bioinformatics paper is cited in the help. MergeLevels.new (snapCGH) is the function called by mergeStates (also in package snapCGH) when MergeType = 1. I think MergeLevels.new is clearly NOT doing what is described in the Bioinformatics paper: that paper is not cited in the help, the defaults of the algorithm are different, and even the workings of the algorithm seem to differ. I am confussed, because from the help of mergeStates that says "1 uses a new merging algorithm developed by Hanni Willenbrock and Jane Fridlyand.", it would seem that MergeLevels.new is the recommended way to go. But option 2 (i.e., MergeLevels.old) is not the same as mergeLevels from aCGH either (it seems to be the former merging algorithm in the JMVA paper by Fridlyand et al.). So, there are three algorithms, mergeLevels (aCGH), MergeLevels.new (snapCGH) and MergeLevels.old (snapCGH). Among the first two, which one should be used? And, if MergeLevels.new is the currently recommended one, are there any references? Thanks, R. -- Ram?n D?az-Uriarte Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncol?gicas (CNIO) (Spanish National Cancer Center) Melchor Fern?ndez Almagro, 3 28029 Madrid (Spain) Fax: +-34-91-224-6972 Phone: +-34-91-224-6900 http://ligarto.org/rdiaz PGP KeyID: 0xE89B3462 (http://ligarto.org/rdiaz/0xE89B3462.asc) **NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD** Este correo electr?nico, y en s...{{dropped}}
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J-C. Marioni ▴ 30
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Hi Ramon, Like you, I'm a little puzzled by this. mergeLevels.new should be the function Jane wrote. However, clearly something has gone wrong in our implementation or an old version of the code has been uploaded into BioConductor. While the functions (mergeLevels and mergeLevels.new) are clearly quite similar, there are differences. The fault is almost certainly with us and I will endeavour to sort out the problem ASAP. Thanks for pointing this out. John >Dear All, > > I am confussed about the differences between mergeLevels (in package > aCGH) and MergeLevels.new (package snapCGH), and which one is the > recommended merging procedure to use. > > By the description in the help, mergeLevels (aCGH) is the one used in the > Willenbrock & Fridlyand Bioinformatics 2005 paper. The defaults of > mergeLevels (Wilcoxon p-value, Ansari p-value, etc) are also those used > in the Bioinformatics paper. And the Bioinformatics paper is cited in the > help. > > MergeLevels.new (snapCGH) is the function called by mergeStates (also in > package snapCGH) when MergeType = 1. I think MergeLevels.new is clearly > NOT doing what is described in the Bioinformatics paper: that paper is > not cited in the help, the defaults of the algorithm are different, and > even the workings of the algorithm seem to differ. > > I am confussed, because from the help of mergeStates that says "1 uses a > new merging algorithm developed by Hanni Willenbrock and Jane > Fridlyand.", it would seem that MergeLevels.new is the recommended way to > go. But option 2 (i.e., MergeLevels.old) is not the same as mergeLevels > from aCGH either (it seems to be the former merging algorithm in the JMVA > paper by Fridlyand et al.). > > So, there are three algorithms, mergeLevels (aCGH), MergeLevels.new > (snapCGH) and MergeLevels.old (snapCGH). Among the first two, which one > should be used? And, if MergeLevels.new is the currently recommended one, > are there any references? > > > >Thanks, > >R. > >
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Dear John, Thanks for your answer and checking it. Best, R. On Friday 12 January 2007 10:39, J-C. Marioni wrote: > Hi Ramon, > > Like you, I'm a little puzzled by this. mergeLevels.new > should be the function Jane wrote. However, clearly something has gone > wrong in our implementation or an old version of the code has been > uploaded into BioConductor. While the functions (mergeLevels and > mergeLevels.new) are clearly quite similar, there are differences. The > fault is almost certainly with us and I will endeavour to sort out the > problem ASAP. > > Thanks for pointing this out. > John > > >Dear All, > > > > I am confussed about the differences between mergeLevels (in package > > aCGH) and MergeLevels.new (package snapCGH), and which one is the > > recommended merging procedure to use. > > > > By the description in the help, mergeLevels (aCGH) is the one used in the > > Willenbrock & Fridlyand Bioinformatics 2005 paper. The defaults of > > mergeLevels (Wilcoxon p-value, Ansari p-value, etc) are also those used > > in the Bioinformatics paper. And the Bioinformatics paper is cited in the > > help. > > > > MergeLevels.new (snapCGH) is the function called by mergeStates (also in > > package snapCGH) when MergeType = 1. I think MergeLevels.new is clearly > > NOT doing what is described in the Bioinformatics paper: that paper is > > not cited in the help, the defaults of the algorithm are different, and > > even the workings of the algorithm seem to differ. > > > > I am confussed, because from the help of mergeStates that says "1 uses a > > new merging algorithm developed by Hanni Willenbrock and Jane > > Fridlyand.", it would seem that MergeLevels.new is the recommended way to > > go. But option 2 (i.e., MergeLevels.old) is not the same as mergeLevels > > from aCGH either (it seems to be the former merging algorithm in the JMVA > > paper by Fridlyand et al.). > > > > So, there are three algorithms, mergeLevels (aCGH), MergeLevels.new > > (snapCGH) and MergeLevels.old (snapCGH). Among the first two, which one > > should be used? And, if MergeLevels.new is the currently recommended one, > > are there any references? > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >R. -- Ram?n D?az-Uriarte Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncol?gicas (CNIO) (Spanish National Cancer Center) Melchor Fern?ndez Almagro, 3 28029 Madrid (Spain) Fax: +-34-91-224-6972 Phone: +-34-91-224-6900 http://ligarto.org/rdiaz PGP KeyID: 0xE89B3462 (http://ligarto.org/rdiaz/0xE89B3462.asc) **NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD** Este correo electr?nico, y en s...{{dropped}}
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